Okay, so Stinger Driver is coming up as a 25th anniversary figure. Let's see him fit in the Stinger! YEAH RIGHT! :mad:

A joke? A bad dream? Argh!
 

It just gets better doesn't it?

Yet another Cobra Commander and Storm Shadow and more mold reuse! Lazy cheap a$$ b******s!

I guess the laziness came in handy... With all that saved time from being cheap and using existing pieces and doing repaints they were able to make some custom 25th figures... Great... Don't worry about the build quality of the new figures or anything Hasbro!!!

Serpy looks awful too... As does Zartan...

When did we get a Red Ninja apart from that 6 pack? I thought we were talking 80's figures/Much loved characters???

Could this 25th anniversary line get any more farcical?

It makes me wonder what other 25th anniversary horrors -that have not been unveiled yet- await us at the Con...

Good job Hasbro... Keep it up... :rolleyes:

Dave :D

Contrast..
 

So i hope the contrast is altered at some point, i've spoken through email with someone and they already have pictures in hand of the 25th Anniversary Figures. He is incredibly pleased with his purchases and says they look good as part of his collection, I don't want to just select the high ground and go against what people are reporting.. because if it is true about the vast majority of figures having poor quality control then that would be a shame, the idea of not having an O-ring has left a bitter taste amongst alot of fans/collectors.

For those actually being on this forum complaining and dissing hasbro's efforts how many of you can actually attest to have held one of these figures?

I'm not saying your all wrong.. and you've no right to complain or have your own opinion.. but it does seem like many of you are crying before you've even given the line a fair shot?

This community and forum, posts up diorama shots of G.I.Joe photo's.. lets say I'm a new member and i have reasonably good photography skills. Unfortunately my enthusiasm is dampened by having a sub par camera and so my first few submissions need some work.. would it be fair to outright throw out my qualities on first showing? I guess not.. because in the future I might actually produce something of quality you might like.

I guess Hasbro aren't new and sub standard, so maybe my comparison is slightly out, after all they've been making figures now for two decades right if not longer.. so when they release there product it should be top quality and produced to the highest standard we expect of them, for the most part if not longer.

I can say the same about the 25th line, alot like JVC and the VvV line of figures I went out and bought them, they wasn't for me so I sold them on. If you can already judge just by looking at pictures of them online without seeing them in the flesh then so be it. That's your call.

What works for one fan doesn't work for another. I'm still going to give the figures a fair shot i've got them on order and when they arrive if i aint satisfied, i'll do what hasbro wants me to do .. write to them and ask them what they are going to do about it and probably sell them as I did with my JVC line.

I've heard crazy crazy things over the last few weeks, most of it regarding the 25th Anniversary stuff, at the end of the day if the line is as bad as people are making out, this won't last long surely?
Rich

I haven't said much about the 25th line seeing I haven't got them yet but if I have any complaint, it'll probably be the inclusion of CC and Storm Shadow in the five pack, they should have left it as a pure troop builder pack IMO though if they do release the three troops on single cards, that might quieten some complaints. BTW those customs could actually be tests for future figures, I can't see characters like Lifeline, Leatherneck, Zarana and Airtight not been made down the line.

I believe Pythona and Leatherneck were just customs and not actually part of the line (yet).

Beachhead looked sweet and Stalker and Firefly are shaping up to be 2 of my most anticipated figs. Zartan too. Looking forward to seeing the final product.

dude!!! they got a pimp daddy destro!!! ahhh i still haven't got any of the first line but i do want one of thoughs buzzers

Rich, you know I haven't been keen on the 25th figs since the first pics appeared, but to be totally fair, I bought both 5-packs before I made any final decisions. Unfortunately they are very disappointing, both in design/articulation, and in quality control. Any future figures would have to be greatly improved or something special for me to buy any more. I really wanted them to be good, I want to buy more Joes, but they are just not up to scratch. I'm angry with Hasbro because I truly feel that they have deserted their traditional fan base by taking the line in the direction they have. :(

I totally dig the repainted Stormy. Beachy looks hott. Buzzer's cool. Could care less about CC, Red Ninja (jeez), Lady Jaye, Shipshape... and Pimp Daddy. But dizzam, Serpentor looks pretty tight. Zartan! Dude!!!

Too bad we KNOW the quality is crap.

I admit, I like the Con set.

The 8" stuff. omg. I don't even know what some of those are.

ok guys here an up to date with more pics
http://i.toynewsi.com/g/?mode=album...%2FGIJoe%2F25th
these are 2 & 3 waves. so yes we will see old sgt. and Pythona , :D :D :D :D :D :D
wrong one, not the top, but this one.
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/SDCC07/HasbroGIJoe/

Leatherneck!!!

I didn't say so earlier but the Alley Viper is coming!!! That's so cool, even if he is Orange and Blue!!!

Those are just customs (so far), the little Hasbro sign says so

See the sign

NOT AVAILABLE on their name tags...

Obviously made to gauge fan interest, though. Or Hasbro's goons are busy finding ways to reuse parts. Or both. Leatherneck looks very convincing.

Note the Night Creeper uses new Zartan parts...a figure we have yet to see a painted prototype of!

but still, there may be a change of hart,you never know Lava, I'm hoping that the Sgt is part of the line :D :D

I took the customs to be Hasbro's answer to fans' fears that the new figures wouldn't have the same customizing possibilities as the old line (it came up in those Q&As they did). So these are saying "Look, you CAN customize them, look who you can make!" -- hopefully this won't be their way of excusing themselves from properly making some characters. I guess these customs show us what's possible if they do decide to produce Slaughter, Pythona, etc, but they'd still be WAY off as there's a huge difference between making a 1-off custom at 4" scale and creating a figure for production.

I'm pretty much unmoved either way from my existing feelings by the new pics. Some of them look really nice as representations of the characters (Beach Head in particular) but I have a few issues -- Lady Jaye apparently still doesn't get a removable cap, Serpentor's torso looks rather weird/bland considering the detail elsewhere, and the lack of cobra "hood" looks wrong considering the rest is pretty much a v1 update. I think the promised "army builder" pack with the VvV color-scheme CC & SS is stupid of them and what the hell's with that "Air Trooper" - gas-mask trooper with a JUMP repaint? They're already making up stuff to reuse parts instead of what they promised which was meant to be delving into the 25-year history... And on a semi-related note, I see the single-card Trooper is indeed a Viper Pilot -- I'd rather army-build the red logo...

Interesting that they used the Satan artwork and called it a Red Ninja. They also appear to have done a new head for him with the pointy "ears" on his mask making him more comic-accurate. In that vein, making his arms all-red too would have been nice.

Meh. The Marvel Legends previews have me more interested than the Joes, and even those are looking a bit dodgy in places (cutting back on articulation horribly). The JoeCon set seems to be the upcoming toys I'm most excited about at the moment!

it looks like they are trying to fix the articulation problems people are having with the hips, if you look at the lady jay the grey proto one i guess looks like the changed her waist design from the painted version,but the zartan design looks like it will offer even more movement with the notches in his legs

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/?mode=view&...ize=800&start=0

but this is a little over the top look at the popeye arms

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/?mode=view&...ze=800&start=60

That set is the only upcoming Joe stuff I'm excited about! :)

Word is (joe battlelines) the current Hasbro GI JOE guy (there's a new one every year, seems like) said something about correcting issues, like the hip articulation. Scale wasn't one of them...but...at least they claim to notice. They've been good at doing that in the past. As well as passing the buck...

Like the $7 price tag for Star Wars figures. "It's based on retailers"

Even though the MSRP (manufacturor suggested retail price) is $6.99.

This time the factories in China are the scapegoat. Funny, GI JOE has factory issues, but Star Wars doesn't seem to.

Oh, those are customs. I was too busy looking at the figures to notice anything else.

Btw, here's Recondo's ditty about GI Joe at SDCC blah blah blah...

Recondo says John Warden says...

so were just going to have to waite and see what will 2008 bring, its not that far way..

It's nice to know that Hasbro knows of the problems plaguing the current figures. At the same time, it does sound like a rush job and the fact that the posse in China do what they want when it comes to American product designs. We can only blame Hasbro so far. Personally, I think Hasbro should've taken a stronger stance and made the factories in China do the figures over.

I agree with that..
 

I agree with that, especially if the product isn't meeting the advertisement's proclamations. I've heard so many mixed reviews on these I am not in a place to judge without seeing these for myself. One person says they are great another says they are lame because of rush jobs sloppy paint apps and gimpy knees.

If the figures are poorly constructed, then yes it would unsettle fans that they'd have to wait longer due to a put back on the release, (kind of like releasing console games) however despite this most fans would be pleased to know hasbro have addressed the problem and rather than rush them out they have hauled them back to change them and get the factory to get it right.

Course we are on the outside, we don't know what there budgets are for this line, don't know who's in control and don't know the full Situation.
All i know is that i've heard alot of people complain and alot of people are happy with them.
Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens next.
Rich

Believe it or not, GI Joe toys actually have deadlines! The whole subject of the 'overly large' Beach Head is on the other boards. You guys really gotta check out that thread on JBL because it discusses how the Chinese factories will change up things on products and not ask. Seriously tho, if the product coming over is crap, then why is Hasbro letting it slide? Why don't they step up and have things redone, budget or not? Cuz in the end, the company loses consumer trust by allowing this stuff to end up on the shelves. Certainly, it's gotta be cheaper in the long run. *shrug*

wow awesome info thanks a lot i like all blk weapons anyway you can always paint them, i hope they make a trooper 6 pk, i think this new guy is doing well i like the look of the figures and if they update the functionality even better, i seen someone put recondo gloves on flint it looked great but i am going to try putting this dukes gloves on him if i ever find the 25th guys :(
http://www.yojoe.com/action/03/duke12.shtml ,
any one have this combo to try out and tell me how it looks/ works?

this launch reminds me of when the joes came out with the straight arms first and then went to swivel arms and the figures just got better and better.

Straight arms to swivel arms was an improvement, unfortunately I can't say the same about the move to the 25th ann figure style. :(

im thinking about the next waves of 25th guys after reading the above news i am hoping they improve on these guys just comparing my hope to when the swivel arms came out it was such an improvement.

SDCC Playing Card deck reveals art for upcoming figures
 

Comicon 25th Anniversary Playing Cards

That some use new artwork, that practically tells us these characters are coming for the 25th style line.

I never would've though HISS DRIVER would be made so soon.

Also, looks like they are gonna swamp this line with repaints.

Hasbro issue cheap repaints? Surely not..... :rolleyes:

Second Cobra 25th Anniversary pack on YoJoe.com
 

Check out the link for a picture of the second 25th anniversary Cobra 5-pack on yojoe.com;

http://www.yojoe.com/magazine/2007/...cobra5pk_lg.jpg

Pretty disappointing, I must say. Cheap-arsed repaints with a comic pack Gas Trooper head thrown in as a "Jet Pack Trooper". Hasbro must think we all love wasting money on trash when they offer up c.r.a.p. like this! :mad:

Time of death 8/23 at 0222.

Didn't take long for repaints :mad:

Personally, if these were done in the original 3 3/4" line, I'd be all over these figures............I love how the colors 'pop'

I have to agree, that stormshadow and cobra commander are pathetic. At least the stinger driver makes SENSE ,yet he will never fit in a stinger :mad: . That cobra jump jet is interesting though.

Cobra Commander looks at least good - as for me. Storm Shadow has a small problem with Cobra on his face mask (that supposed to be a Cobra logo? ok, nvmd...), Grunts look... well... like bigger 3 3/4 figures - but I was always damn curious WHY on Earth they're equipped with Dragunov-like sniper rifles??? Have you seen any grunt running around and assaulting anything with a sniper rifle? Hasbro is weird.
And the jet pack trooper looks... I dunno - as for me more like for a Sgt Savage line...

Again - disappointing

I'm not a fan of the Cobra Commander and Storm Shadow by any means. But I like the other three, especially since the trooper and air trooper are in comic book colors. I'll probably wind up picking this up if for no other reason than to add to my 25th Cobra forces.

Maybe I can do a head swap with a carded officer to make a comic book Cobra Officer...

If Storm Shadow was teal like the Ninja Viper, I'd be all over the set. But now, the only one I really like is the Stinger Driver, and somewhat the Jet Pack Trooper. I would like more red symbol Troopers, but I'm not gonna sweat it if I have to get extra Commanders and Storm Shadows.

It's been noted that Hasbro wants to push the Cobra Trooper mold as far as they can. Gotta make back some of that cash spent on doing all this. I'm not excited for the pack myself, but I'll still get it. These were released at the SanDiegoCon...

I like the Storm Shadow even if it is overkill.

Cobra Commander, bleh.

I'd rather see the Trooper w/ a black mask as a re-release to get him out to the kids and fans as opposed to scalpers.

Jump pack... Uhmmmmmm... Ok.

Stinger Driver. That mean a Stinger is in the works?

Two five-packs and one series of single-carded figures and they're already scraping the bottom of the barrel for repaint ideas.

Comic book Trooper: Why? And why so soon?

Jet Pack Trooper: Uhm... I can't understand the reasoning behind this. Were the CP gas mask troopers really THAT popular? :confused:

Stinger Driver: Useless without a Stinger.

Storm Shadow: The epitome of barrel bottom-scraping.

Cobra Commander: Not all that bad looking, but a third repaint so soon? That's pushing it...

Must be, they played a huge role in the comic book (for one panel in one issue out of 155 issues). And I still see them at Toy R Us...(and I still buy them :o ).

The San Diego comic con showed a cobra officer helmet with the Jet Pack trooper, which implied that the gas mask helmet combo is removable, and then you could just make a comic book Cobra Officer. But I'm not sure Hasbro confirmed that.

The Storm Shadow repaint seems really lame because the Cobra on his mask and dragons on his legs are not detailed applications at all. (You can still find VvsV Storm Shadow at a Family Dollar near where I work!)

Really, if they insisted on including the Storm Shadow mold, they should've made it a Ninja Trooper/Viper or a black dragon ninja.

I sort of like the C.C., except the hand portion of the gaunlets being silver is stupid, just like when they made Imperial Procession Cobra Commander's lower arms all black. It looks bad.

But again, the big drawbacks to the set are 2 out of 5 figures are characters, making it a bad value for an army builder pack. $25 to $30 for 3 troopers, maybe four if you can stomach using Storm Shadow as one. Plus, the hip joints again :( . That Stinger driver can't even operate the vintage vehicle or hardly any vehicles. At best he can operate a motorcycle.

And I gotta say, all the Cobra trooper/officer variants and repaints in the past few years...they wait for a new format to give us a Stinger driver? :rolleyes:

Sums it all up, really. :rolleyes: One of the critcisms of the 25th line, even from those who liked the new figure construction, was that do we really need version 25 or 30 of certain characters, yet here we go again! Doesn't Hasbro listen to the people who buy their stuff? 3 versions of CC and Storm Shadow already? Hasbro's ignorance, and arrogant assumption that the fans are stupid, will be the death of the line.