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lehsreh 05-27-2008 09:42 PM

should hasbro bring back the o-ring???
 
just waht it says. what is your opinion? i saw this on hisstank and was surprised that 73 to 20 voted against bringing back the o-ring. from that poll hasbro is doing what is making the joe fans happy. im wondering what everyone here on joedios thinks.

Dersham 05-27-2008 09:56 PM

I did vote yes. But I don't that it's because I'm afraid of change, I like change, so long as the change is like good. And though the 25th stuff is neat and there's some guys who have decent hand articulation, like Scarlett for example, moving at the waist makes sense. The O-ring made waist movent feel realistic (despite being able to turn 360 degrees), and I loved the JVC, VVV and DTC figures.

Sonneilon 05-27-2008 11:19 PM

I'm sorry. i'm voting o-ring. fact is, if Hasbro did swivle waists along with the pivot chest, i'd be cool. But hasbro can't think like Takara so...

C-GDSM 2487 05-28-2008 04:15 AM

i voted yes as i dont like the new style

bring back the o ring please

lehsreh 05-28-2008 04:24 AM

i actually had to go against the tide here and vote no. i love the o-ring and the times i had with them i will never forget. but the new 25th is a step in the right direction. i love the extra detail(compare the 25th twins to the ARAH), the extra movement in the knees and the new heads are leaps ahead of the old stuff with the o-ring. plus you wont have to replace anything 100 times in the years to come.

i do wish that they would go back to the screw so it would be easier to customize. i also like the fact that they are going through the line again. this is one reason a lot of people dont like the 25th. if your like me, you hadnt even saw many of these figures until the 25th.

if they could keep everything going in the same direction, but change the torso movement to that of the o-ring, i would be for it. but for me thats the only way, i like everything else.

Urban Saboteur 05-28-2008 04:56 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lehsreh

if they could keep everything going in the same direction, but change the torso movement to that of the o-ring, i would be for it. but for me thats the only way, i like everything else.


:confused: You voted no against bringing back the o-ring.. yet here you state you'd want to see a better form of articulation in the waist.. :o

I wonder how much it costs hasbro to produce the new figures, you know.. now that the o-ring and screws aren't used for the build up.. I wonder what the productions costs run between the O-ring and the 25th Anniversary?

So now that I thought that out and threw it out there for people to mull and chew on. I'd say that Hasbro has almost got it.. so I don't think they should bring back the O-ring. You can actually have Articulated Figures without O-ring, and ones that move just as good as the 25ths and O-ring combined.

Just look at the movement you can do with a series 5-6 Marvel Legend from Toybiz back in the day, they can move. If they could bring in the extra articulation into the torso there and cut out the man flab/boobs we'd be rockin..
Course hasbro doing this is another thing.. they'll yammer on about extra articulation means the figures become loose over time.. when what they really mean is.. "Extra articulation.. oh good heavens.. that means the shareholders won't have that extra dollar, we can't do that" :D

NOTE TO HASBRO: Don't bring back the O-ring, you've made your bed..now lie in it you greedy, selfish demons!!! :p

snakeeater 05-28-2008 05:00 AM

I didn't vote yet. I like both styles of figures. They fixed the 25th so they can sit down now, a big improvement over the first wave, and O rings don't have to be replaced on these guys. I have an O Ring Python Trooper whose O ring broke, and on top of that, the screw in his back is stripped so I can't replace it, so he is permanently broken in half.

I haven't used the 25th figures in any pictures yet, so I don't know how they are to work with in that regard, but my old figures work just fine (except for the Viper Pit figures.)

Urban Saboteur 05-28-2008 05:03 AM

And the ones..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by snakeeater
I haven't used the 25th figures in any pictures yet, so I don't know how they are to work with in that regard, but my old figures work just fine (except for the Viper Pit figures.)


and of course the ones that are snapped in half with stripped screws ;)

lehsreh 05-28-2008 05:15 AM

yeah, the rusty screws were always a problem, then again so is the glue with nowhere to get it apart. but i still pick the 25th over the old style. harder to change parts, but you really dont need to, no o-ring to break and change.

Sonneilon 05-28-2008 10:49 AM

Microman, as fragile as they are, have better torso/waist movement.

Now that I think about it, I prefer the o-ring simply cuz the chest is one piece. If you look at Duke or half the other 25A figures, their shirts don't line up. It's kind of annoying. I don't think I ever had problems with the 1-piece chest (ie; w/o articulation) when it came to posing.

I don't mind the size variance. I love the sculpting and the ideas (for the most part) that Hasbro is doing. You take the Wild Weasel & Snow Job figures and check out their legs. It's the same base legs but they changed up the accessories. Very smart idea. So instead of having to sculpt new legs every time, they can add small changes.

Let me speak on this too. I know a lot of people are dissing the 25A cuz Hasbro went with the original outfits. I figures, it's the 25A, what do you expect? You don't go FORWARD with designs, that's what the off years are for. :p Seriously, anniversaries are usually a time for reflection. I don't mind they went 'backwards' with the outfit designs. We're seeing that the outfits from the original line still hold up today.

Snake Eyes blew me away. The v1. He's just awesome, regardless if you love or hate the character. It's a tight figure. I didn't think that old 1982 design would work. But it does!

Roadblock or Gung Ho on the other hand, not quite so.

I think dio-wise, it's nice to have the crew in their original outfits. They simply been updated. So instead of the crappy VvV Wild Weasel, we got a wonderful 25A Wild Weasel.

My biggest beef, other than the goofy articulation in the arms is that we're getting too many versions of a character. Yeah, I'm looking at YOU Mr. Winterized Snake Eyes and your brother from another mother, Toxic Snake Eyes!!!


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