Things to hate about the 25th....

[Agent Viper]

I know some of us hate all the 25th crap Hasbro is shelling out, but then there is some like me, who hate SOME stuff that comes out.

So, what do you not like about the 25th?

I HATE the Armadillo Tank. for me it is too small......

I also can't stand how when some comic packs they release a really cool figure but pair him up with some Piece of Crap that you do not need.

[lehsreh]

[QUOTE=Agent Viper]
I HATE the Armadillo Tank. for me it is too small......

I also can't stand how when some comic packs they release a really cool figure but pair him up with some Piece of Crap that you do not need.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR=Red]
thats not just the 25th, a lot of the ARAH vehicles were not nearly as big as they should have been, and go back a few years to the 2 packs, they would put one cool figure in, and one that sucked. so these complaints arent just the 25th, but all of GI Joe...star wars too. we buyers may hate it, but you have to admit that hasbro is smart in knowing we'll pay more money out for them.[/COLOR]

[Agent Viper]

[QUOTE=lehsreh][COLOR=Red]
thats not just the 25th, a lot of the ARAH vehicles were not nearly as big as they should have been, and go back a few years to the 2 packs, they would put one cool figure in, and one that sucked. so these complaints arent just the 25th, but all of GI Joe...star wars too. we buyers may hate it, but you have to admit that hasbro is smart in knowing we'll pay more money out for them.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]


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[Outrider]

I think most people around here know my thoughts on the 25th figures by now, so perhaps I'll refrain just this once! :)

[Sonneilon]

I wish hasbro would:

-Get the proportions right. WIld Bill and his small head and Breaker and his big head are 2 examples

-Articulation. They shoulda put a peg swivel on a crotch piece instead of the chest rotator. The arms on most of the figures have a lot to be desired. Make 'em bend 90 degrees or more. Double joint them like the knees? Otherwise, everything is pretty top notch except for some of hte chosen characters.

-Vehicles. Where are they? Why are we getting 'crap'? SHARC before f'n VAMP? WTF?

[Urban Saboteur]

Seriously?.. do we really need another thread to diss the 25th product.. I don't like it.. but I aint going to spend the next 10 days contributing to a complaint I've been writing up on since the beginning of the year..
Go and see my 25th Storm Shadow review.. and you'll be able to read the problems I have with the 25th stuff.

[Outrider]

[QUOTE=Urban Saboteur]Seriously?.. do we really need another thread to diss the 25th product.. I don't like it.. but I aint going to spend the next 10 days contributing to a complaint I've been writing up on since the beginning of the year.[/QUOTE]

Exactly Rich, that's why I let this one go.

[Rambo]

I dont think Hassbro is smart. WHY would you make a non-desirable figure to go with a cool one? Put two cool ones, or two of the same figure.

[Self-Modifier]

[QUOTE=Outrider]Exactly Rich, that's why I let this one go.[/QUOTE]

And I appreciate the restraint from both of you!! ;)

Everyone knows I'm a big 25th supporter, but I'll describe my few issues here:

As was mentioned above, range of motion in some of the articulation is pretty bad, and I hate the wrist swivel in Duke's arms!! While not a fan of the chest joint, I do think they've gotten better at disguising it, so I don't dislike as much as I used to.

I guess my biggest complaint is issuing characters multiple times in color schemes I'm not interested in, then releasing them later on in colors that I like (after I bought the original with the assumption my preferred colors would never come out)!! I bought the first battle helmet Cobra Commander, then they later released a far more cartoon-accurate one in the ranking officers pack, so I got him again... and now they're releasing the best one yet in the final cartoon pack! Likewise for Wild Bill-- I wouldn't have bought the drab single-carded version if I'd known they'd be putting out a blue/orange cartoon version in a comic pack (though I'll get the comic pack anyway for Scrap-Iron).

I would complain that Hasbro is trying to make me spend $15 for Steeler's head since I have no interest in the Armadillo, Air Chariot, Serpentor, or Steeler's body... But I looked closely at that head in the store today, and it doesn't even look like Steeler!

So anyway, that's about it... My love of the 25th far, far, far outweighs any complaints I have!

[DaveCW2]

Does "nothin" count? ;)

Actually, as huge a supporter of the line as I am, I realize it has it's flaws:

1) Duke arms. I've never been a huge fan of Duke, but when his crappy arms were used for Flint, it was ON!!! And I do think it's a real shame those arms have been used for so many of the original 13.

2) Articulation. I wish there was a standard all the figures had to adhere to (Tomax and Xamot would actually be a decent standard); the only exception being where the wrist cut is.

3) Hands should be standard, though I do appreciate the fists.

4) Repainting heads. No. Just... no.

5) They STILL haven't released all the characters from '85 ;)

Have fun, all!!!

[ender098]

There are plenty of things to hate about the 25th....articulation issues, size issues, the fact that the progression of the line didn't gradually go from ARAH to these smoothly (We should have had a few improvements to the new sculpts, then a few generations to gradually institute changes until the whole line was changed to how the 25th is now). The thing that REALLY urks me has nothing to do with the toys, it has to do with the fact hasbro basically changed the line THAT radically and then acts like the want you to "re-buy" the whole line.

I mean how would you feel if Sigma Six had caught like wildfire and Hasbro cancelled the 3 3/4 inch line? That;s how I feel right now. Thank God for the GIJCC!

[Dzirhan]

Well, my primary dislike is simply the lack of new design vehicles, redoing vehicles done 25 years ago is not something I really want to see going on and on especially since it's the same vehicles that have been reissued in the past with a few modifications, we've had the vamp,awe-striker, sharc, hiss, conquest and rattlers in previous joe reincarnations and all these are looking their age today, I honestly get more interested in new chap mei vehicles than joes these days

[Tracker]

[QUOTE=DaveCW2]Does "nothin" count? ;)

Actually, as huge a supporter of the line as I am, I realize it has it's flaws:

1) Duke arms. I've never been a huge fan of Duke, but when his crappy arms were used for Flint, it was ON!!! And I do think it's a real shame those arms have been used for so many of the original 13.

2) Articulation. I wish there was a standard all the figures had to adhere to (Tomax and Xamot would actually be a decent standard); the only exception being where the wrist cut is.

3) Hands should be standard, though I do appreciate the fists.

4) Repainting heads. No. Just... no.

5) They STILL haven't released all the characters from '85 ;)

Have fun, all!!![/QUOTE]


I an in agreement with your statements as a 25th supporter. The size of the figs I like because they are true 1:18th scale now.

[Rambo]

IMO not all is bad. The accesories LOOK really cool, more detailed and removable!

[tunnelrat88]

Two major gripes for me. One is distribution, as I haven't seen nearly as much available in stores and it takes forever for my local stores to catch up to what is new. The other is the durability of the figures. I had all my 25th on display in my room and decided to take them down an noticed that their leg joints were significantly looser than when I first purchased them. I had them up for a while, but they shouldn't have loosened up that quickly. Did this happen to anyone else.

[Pit Viper v2]

To me the 25th line is a lot like the Sgt. Savage line. They look great compared to the stuff that had been out before them but I just can't get over the scale issue. I simply can't afford to essentially start over with my collection. The fact that they have articulation issues as well is an added annoyance. As such I kind of look at these as being mini-statues that will buy from time to time. I'm not a completest and I'm not an army builder when it comes to these things. I also feel that a lot of these figures will be redone within the next 5 years and end up looking even better. That's the way it was with Star Wars.

[Sonneilon]

Here's a beef. F'n stores can't keep up with stock! Or the latest wave! Gah?