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troopsofdoom 01-31-2012 11:25 PM

CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM initiative
 
It's been mentioned numerous times that JoeDios lacks constructive criticism. I agree, I would like to get some real critiques on my photos. I've also been reluctant to leave it because you never know who really wants it or can actually handle it. I have an idea to get the ball rolling for those who want to participate. At the end of each photo description simply add:

Constructive criticism please. (Or just CCP.)

This will indicate that you are open to all criticisms down to the smallest detail from any member.

Constructive criticism needs to be more than saying you don't like something or that it's wrong. Include advice on how it can be improved or fixed. That's the constructive part.

No signups. Purely optional, anyone can participate. Members can join in or stop at any time by adding, or not adding, CCP to their photo description.

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What does everyone think? It's simple enough that it could work.

pbarny1701 01-31-2012 11:52 PM

I'd welcome it for what little I post.

Saying nice job is meaningless. Nice job of what?

If a picture is blurry, and you say work on focus, work on focus how? If you can't say more than 4 words and the person's name, why bother?

zedhatch 02-01-2012 07:57 AM

I'll give it a shot.

Flatline 02-01-2012 06:10 PM

Sounds good add it to all my previous shots LOL ;)

battlewagon 02-03-2012 01:35 AM

I like this idea. JoeDios is my favorite website because members treat each other with respect and appropriate language. In other forums, I've seen all kinds of disgusting, repulsive, offensive, sickening and negative criticism.

I embrace positive feedback and constructive criticism. I just hope that people uphold the principles of leaving appropriate constructive criticism that doesn't bully, offend, discourage, or degrade.

Based on my own experience, I have already dealt with at least two website forums where people treat each other like dirt. Thankfully, I don't plan on ever returning to those websites. :)

yorktownjoe 02-03-2012 03:29 PM

I like this, because I have received photography help and tips from others. I have also become more picky about my own photos (especially with lighting and focus).

For example, I was told early on how to bounce light off another surface (like white card-stock) to cast indirect lighting on a subject rather than direct lighting. The fellow member mentioned this would help me to minimize glare in an over-exposed photo I had posted.

Since then I have experimented with all kinds of lighting tricks in order to improve lighting. I have appreciated the help of others with photography, special effects and other set and background ideas.

A good rule: "Take advice from those who care; take no offense when none is intended."

Nekoman 02-03-2012 04:25 PM

The only thing I don't like is having to specifically ask for constructive criticism.I mean, there's always room to improve, but if you specifically ask for criticism, people will dig for something to point to rather than leave their natural impressions. You would be asking for such a response, after all. Likewise, without asking for it, people are still afraid to give their natural impressions which may include criticism.

The site here needs something, but I'm just not sure what. I do like the push here for constructive criticism, I just can't imagine it getting us far in bringing up the quality on the poorer pics on the site. Hope that doesn't sound like a downer.

troopsofdoom 02-03-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nekoman
The only thing I don't like is having to specifically ask for constructive criticism.I mean, there's always room to improve, but if you specifically ask for criticism, people will dig for something to point to rather than leave their natural impressions. You would be asking for such a response, after all. Likewise, without asking for it, people are still afraid to give their natural impressions which may include criticism.

The site here needs something, but I'm just not sure what. I do like the push here for constructive criticism, I just can't imagine it getting us far in bringing up the quality on the poorer pics on the site. Hope that doesn't sound like a downer.

I think asking for constructive criticism is the only way it's gonna happen because even the out of focus pictures of figures stuck on a display stand on the kitchen counter get "great shot" comments. If those of us who want to improve participate and set a positive example, maybe the people just starting out and the low-quality contributors will want to join in and step up their game. Those of us who want the quality standards to rise need to lead by example.

savage21 02-03-2012 08:39 PM

I will do what I can, shouldnt be too hard

Dreadnok Dread 02-06-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by troopsofdoom
I think asking for constructive criticism is the only way it's gonna happen because even the out of focus pictures of figures stuck on a display stand on the kitchen counter get "great shot" comments. If those of us who want to improve participate and set a positive example, maybe the people just starting out and the low-quality contributors will want to join in and step up their game. Those of us who want the quality standards to rise need to lead by example.






Those of us who want the quality standards to rise need to lead by example.
Took the words right out of my mouth! :)
count all of my shots for sure!


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